Merci chers amis pour vos avis, j avoue que je n attends pas 16 g en pré dialyse pour agir, surtout devant un malade vasculaire ou devant un abord vasculaire " difficile"<br><br>Le vendredi 8 avril 2016, Amar AMAOUCHE <<a href="mailto:aamaouche@aurar.fr">aamaouche@aurar.fr</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">De la part de</span></b> Saad fassi fihri<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé :</span></b> vendredi <u></u>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Renaliste] [!!Mass Mail]Re: Dialyse et Taux D'hémoglobine spontanément superieur à
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Renaliste [<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','renaliste-bounces@nephrodial.org');" target="_blank">renaliste-bounces@nephrodial.org</a>] de la part de Saad fassi fihri [<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sfassifihri@gmail.com');" target="_blank">sfassifihri@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé :</span></b> jeudi <u></u>
7 avril 2016<u></u> 22:25<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b> [!!Mass Mail]Re: [Renaliste] Dialyse et Taux D'hémoglobine spontanément superieur à
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Le jeudi <u></u>7 avril 2016<u></u>, miguel hotmail <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mguillenanaya@hotmail.com');" target="_blank">mguillenanaya@hotmail.com</a>> a écrit :<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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Le jeudi <u></u>7 avril 2016<u></u>, Philippe Nicoud <<a href="http://UrlBlockedError.aspx" target="_blank">philippe.nicoud@wanadoo.fr</a>> a écrit :<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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Si ils sont sans Fer ni EPO on ne fait rien ils vont tout bien en règle générale<br>
Nous en avons un ou deux sur 200 patients traités<br>
Bonne soirée<br>
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> On <u></u>7 avr. 2016<u></u>, at
<u></u>3:06 PM<u></u>, Saad fassi fihri <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sfassifihri@gmail.com');" target="_blank">sfassifihri@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Chers amis, je vous demande votre attitude devant les patients dialysés ayant un taux d'HB supérieur à 14g, voir plus ( sans EPO), en dehors d'un arrêt du FER et de la recherche d'une cause paranéoplasique.<br>
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> Saad FASSI FIHRI<br>
> Centre des maladies des reins souissi, Rabat<br>
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